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Old 07-03-2006, 09:03 PM   #1
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Question STS-121 Shuttle Launch

Anyone else following the launch of STS-121 (Space Shuttle Discovery)?

Just wondering if there was any overlap between my aviation/aeronautics interest and hybrid ownership.

PS: I don't normally like paying for web-based content, but I have to say CNN's "Pipeline" video coverage is pretty slick. Since I was visiting family over the weekend in Dallas and knew I'd have wireless Net access, but not cable television access (stayed with family, not in a hotel) I splurged on a Pipeline day pass. Got to tune in to coverage no one apparently broadcast on television other than as soundbytes, because it was carried on one of the four live Pipeline video feeds. I upgraded to a monthly account because I'm enjoying 24/7 coverage (commercial free) of the STS-121 launch attempt, including all the radio chatter when a countdown is in progress.
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:49 AM   #2
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Re: STS-121 Shuttle Launch

I got off work at midnight last night and got to hear the kooks on AM Coast To Coast say there are a couple of issues NASA has decided not to deal with. They said there seems to be an unusual sense of urgency to get this shuttle in the air.

NASA doesn't seem to manage risk well. They act like the company I work for where technical lightweights with too much personality and ego are making decisions based on the next stock reports, which negatively affect the quality of the product.

My prayers are with the astronauts. I hope the new space vehicle comes with a solid team of scientists who are allowed to make it work better than the current system.
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Old 07-04-2006, 10:29 AM   #3
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Re: STS-121 Shuttle Launch

NASA is mandated to complete the International Space Station's construction before the Space Shuttle fleet is retired/decommissioned in 2010. There are 12 to 16 Shuttle flights scheduled to meet that requirement, and we have had a one year launch delay between the first (STS-114 on July 26, 2005) and second (STS-121, today's scheduled launch) "Return to Flight" missions.

If anything catastrophic or even remotely so occurs during this launch, the Space Shuttle program is doomed as is the International Space Station's completion because no other, comparable launch vehicle exists to transport the size and types of material the Shuttle's payload bay can carry.

You are right that there are unresolved issues NASA is gambling are not "showstoppers" likely to endanger the crew and vehicle. You are right that there are dissenters (people who's jobs are to ensure the safety of the crew and orbiter); specifically, NASA's Chief Engineer Christopher Scolese and NASA's Chief Safety and Mission Assurance Officer, Bryan O'Connor, who served as pilot on STS-61-B and commanded STS-40 are both on record as being "No Go" for this launch due to the foam/debris-shedding problem that continues to plague all Space Shuttle flights and only became noteworthy in NASA's eyes after the catastrophic loss of Space Shuttle Columbia during re-entry in 2003.

The views of Scolese and O'Connor are on record in NASA's Flight Readiness Review document. Both chose not to appeal to NASA's Administrator, Mike Griffin and thus both tacitly support the launch. Reason? The International Space Station is seen as a "safe harbor" for the astronauts, should their craft fail in some way after getting on-orbit; it would get very crowded in the ISS if all 7 crewmembers on STS-121 had to evacuate to the Station, but it is possible. I think it's a gamble, because they're assuming some risks -- if they couldn't dock with the ISS for some reason, their "safe haven" is not accessible.

The astronauts do have a vote in the "Go/No Go" decisions, but I would imagine it's career suicide to buck the administration and utter a dissenting word in a "Go/No Go" decision. It would be interesting to see if Scolese and O'Connor get reassigned after this mission, assuming it is all a success.

I suspect the launch will go off as scheduled today. I suspect we will see more debris shed during lift-off, due to the amount and quality of cameras (still and video) that are now used to monitor the Shuttle during ascent (a byproduct of the Columbia accident investigation). What this all means for future missions, I do not know. They can't keep calling every mission from now to the end of program a "test flight", and as such they ought to address the debris/foam shedding issue. It was one of the primary criterion that came out of the Columbia accident investigation, and that is why it's worrisome NASA has opted to forego resolving it (they thought they had, with STS-114, and the voila -- foam debris shedding caught on tape.)

On another note, check out Flickr for various photos of STS-121, many of which were taken by various employees associated with the Space Shuttle program.
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:39 AM   #4
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Re: STS-121 Shuttle Launch

Yes, I'm definately following the launch and mission (<<< check out the avatar)... watched all of the launch attempts on NASA Select.

Wow, Shannon! I am impressed. You are remarkably well-informed about STS-121 and the goings-on at NASA these days. You gave a very nice summary. I am also interested in the latest shuttle news but I have a vested interest. I work on the shuttle's on-board Guidance, Navigation, and Flight Control software.

Here's hoping for a successful mission.
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Re: STS-121 Shuttle Launch

I'm a teacher at a NASA Explorer School, and it's the most awesome thing. We get live link-up and access to the NASA channel, some of our teachers and our Prinicpal got to fly in the "weightless wonder" while conducting some of our students experiments. I know it's changed the lives of many students in my school for the better!
Space travel is amazing, isn't it?!!
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some of our teachers and our Prinicpal got to fly in the "weightless wonder" while conducting some of our students experiments.
also known as the "vomit comet".
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Re: STS-121 Shuttle Launch

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Yes, I'm definately following the launch and mission (<<< check out the avatar)... watched all of the launch attempts on NASA Select.

Wow, Shannon! I am impressed. You are remarkably well-informed about STS-121 and the goings-on at NASA these days. You gave a very nice summary. I am also interested in the latest shuttle news but I have a vested interest. I work on the shuttle's on-board Guidance, Navigation, and Flight Control software.

Here's hoping for a successful mission.
Thanks. What can I say, I've always been a geek, especially when it comes to the space program and computers (me @ Space Camp in 1987 -- the one in Alabama; the Titusville one in Florida didn't exist yet.) With the advent of the Internet, it's been a wonderful way to keep my interest in space exploration well-fueled even when a Shuttle mission is not in progress.

Hats off to you and all those whom you work with, as every single person even remotely involved in each Shuttle and ISS mission plays an important role and it's one I wish we (the public) would celebrate more. This is not a 747 flying from LA to New York, after all...

I hope to witness a Space Shuttle launch live sometime between now and 2010 but the odds of that are unlikely. So I settle for the next best thing and tune in live (listening to the NASA TV coverage right now in another window.) when a mission is in progress.
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