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10-01-2003, 10:19 AM

I'm thinking about buying the new digital rebel. Has anybody bought one yet, and what do you think about it?

12-22-2003, 07:23 PM

I have a Digital Rebel, have had it for about 6 weeks now. I used film cameras, 35mm and medium format for about 30 years. I must say, the DRebel delivers image quality, flexibility, and results that while achieveable with 35mm are much more difficult to get. If you love photography and are 'somewhat' computer savvy, you are going to love the Digital Rebel.

OutdoorPhoto.com · 12-23-2003, 09:35 AM

I own the Canon EOS 10D which is the Digital Rebel's "bigger brother". The cameras are actually almost identical with a few exceptions. Canon decided to remove some key features from the Digital Rebel in order to distinguish between the two products.

I think the Digital Rebel is an amazing camera at a price that makes it hard to beat (at $899, it has invaded the high-end point and shoot market).

The image quality of the Digital Rebel and 10D is outstanding with amazing performance in the higher film speeds like 800 and 1600. The ability to create usable images at these higher film speeds has a dramatic effect on your versatility (e.g. sports events, indoor environments without flash, etc.).

If you can afford this camera, I don't think you'll be disappointed!

Shannon · 12-23-2003, 10:25 AM

Sure, rub it in ... us folks with "lowly" D60's that top out at 1000 ISO!

Just kidding, I'm not bitter... jealous, yes, but not bitter. <GRIN>

The Digital Rebel is a sweet camera. If I were in the market for a new digicam, it would be very difficult to pass up the solid value the Digital Rebel provides... and obviously, Justin and I have nothing but wonderful things to say about Canon's line of digital cameras!

schef · 12-23-2003, 01:50 PM

1000 ISO?? The 10D will do 3200

(jk WT, the D60 is still and always will be a very nice camera).

I haven't used a 300D (Digital Rebel) too much but I have a friend who can't say enough good things about it. I agree that if you are willing to spend the money the camera will perform very well.

The only thing that I see that should have been added to the 300D was allowing it to shoot in RAW format. JPG is nice but it can't compare to the flexibility of RAW. But like it was said earlier, that is just one of the features that separate it from other cameras.

OutdoorPhoto.com · 12-23-2003, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by schef
The only thing that I see that should have been added to the 300D was allowing it to shoot in RAW format. JPG is nice but it can't compare to the flexibility of RAW. But like it was said earlier, that is just one of the features that separate it from other cameras.

Actually, the 300D DOES allow you to shoot in .RAW format! It's an amazing little camera!

http://dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/page11.asp

schef · 12-23-2003, 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by OutdoorPhoto.com
Actually, the 300D DOES allow you to shoot in .RAW format! It's an amazing little camera!

http://dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/page11.asp

Wow, that's news to me. I was looking at one this weekend and I even went to the image quality screen to look at the options and RAW was not there.

At least I thought it was not there... hmm...

12-23-2003, 07:12 PM

Indeed it does shoot in RAW format. On some of the other forums,there are discussions that go on ad nauseum about the advantages of shooting in RAW format. No intentions of getting anything started here, but if you have Adobe Photoshop CS, which has a RAW file converter, you can download your RAW files directly into PS and your options are unlimited. Photoshop is one of the most amazing pieces of software I have ever seen. You can do things in PS that simply could not be done in a darkroom. Be warned though, it takes some time to learn. You aren't going to sit down and use PS in a sitting or two. But as you learn more about it, you can do more and you begin to produce better photos. Which is, after all, what it's all about.

A camera like the DRebel and photoshop, it doesn't get any better than this...

Shannon · 12-23-2003, 07:26 PM

Wholeheartedly agree on all counts, deezeljuice! Someone I know had Photoshop CS on his Christmas wishlist, and I think I'm looking forward to him opening it as much as he is!

Glad we could dispel any confusion about the Digital Rebel, since I'd have been floored if the Digital Rebel didn't shoot in RAW format -- even my year-old Canon G2 shoots RAW images!

OutdoorPhoto.com · 12-23-2003, 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by schef
Wow, that's news to me. I was looking at one this weekend and I even went to the image quality screen to look at the options and RAW was not there.

At least I thought it was not there... hmm...

I know what happened to you. If the camera is in one of the "PICTURE" modes (e.g. the "green mode" the "landscape mode", etc.) you WON'T have .RAW as an option.

The camera has to be in P, AV, TV, etc. modes in order to access the .RAW functionality.

That's consistent even back to Shan's PowerShot G2...

I love that Canon keeps that consistency since it makes it easy to transition between camera models...

Bottom line - you were not losing your mind!

schef · 12-23-2003, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by OutdoorPhoto.com
I know what happened to you. If the camera is in one of the "PICTURE" modes (e.g. the "green mode" the "landscape mode", etc.) you WON'T have .RAW as an option.

The camera has to be in P, AV, TV, etc. modes in order to access the .RAW functionality.

That's consistent even back to Shan's PowerShot G2...

I love that Canon keeps that consistency since it makes it easy to transition between camera models...

Bottom line - you were not losing your mind!

Ahh of course! Geez, I miss the simple things.

01-18-2004, 12:15 PM

Check out this website:

http://www.UltimateSLR.com

It's got a lot of links to reviews of the Digital Rebel.

10-10-2004, 11:46 AM

This is old news, but did you guys know that there is a way to hack a Digital Rebel to enable many of the features of the 10D??? To cut costs Canon just disabled many of the features, but did not actually remove them. They may have fixed it by now, but I know the older Rebels will definitely do it. This was big news back in June or something.

http://www.bahneman.com/liem/photos/...el-tricks.html

kai · 01-08-2005, 05:55 PM

thru amazon.com, we just picked up the Digital Rebel body for a net cost of $630.00 - $799 up front cost. minus the $100 rebate from cannon, and minus the $70 amazon gift certificate (which we will use on either accessories or tools to rebuild our kitchen cabinets).

630. not bad.

i'll post this here, as well: if anyone has any input on compact flash cards- size, manufacturer, etc, it'd be greatly appreciated. thanks.

Shannon · 01-08-2005, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kai

thru amazon.com, we just picked up the Digital Rebel body for a net cost of $630.00 - $799 up front cost. minus the $100 rebate from cannon, and minus the $70 amazon gift certificate (which we will use on either accessories or tools to rebuild our kitchen cabinets).

630. not bad.

i'll post this here, as well: if anyone has any input on compact flash cards- size, manufacturer, etc, it'd be greatly appreciated. thanks.

Lexar tends to be the most expensive. They have some terrific cards, including a great line of professional cards, but you know what -- so does Sandisk, and at a lower price point. Our highest speed, most trusted cards right now are Sandisk Extreme's -- 1 GB CompactFlash cards. We have two (one for each of our Canon EOS 1D Mark II's). We also have two low cost Viking 512 MB CompactFlash cards, and one "plain Jane" 512 MB Sandisk card. We also, incredibly, still have two working 1 GB IBM Microdrives -- actual miniature hard drives that no one, including us, thought would take the use and abuse for this long! We don't use them unless we've filled ALL the other cards, though, just in case. With two 8megapixel cameras shooting continuously (say, at an airshow), yes, it is possible to fill all these cards and have to resort to the "backup" 1 GB Microdrives. It happens... occasionally.

For anyone shooting frequently and with a 6 or more megapixel camera, I would strongly encourage no less than a 512 MB card. You don't want to miss shots because you're having to swap in another 256 MB card or, heaven forbid, simply have to stop shooting because you are completely out of digital media. For perspective, I can easily fill a 1 GB CF card on a 1 hour flight with Justin during which I shoot aerial photographs 60-70% of the time. I can do that every single flight now that I shoot with an 8 megapixel camera, and I could do it pretty predictably with my old EOS D-60 6 megapixel camera, as well. This includes some in-flight editing of photos I know I've botched, due to turbulence, mis-focusing, or compositions I wasn't happy with and immediately reshot (when able).