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Old 01-15-2009, 05:08 PM   #1
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Tour of Texas this summer??

I am attempting to make vacation plans for our family for the last week of July. My husband would like to stay in Texas this year because there are just so many areas we have not been to before even though we have both lived here all our lives.

So I was hoping you all could help.

I'd like to tell you my ideas and then get feedback or other suggestions. We have roughly 10 days for this trip. It will be myself, husband and two daughters who will be 6 and 13 by then. We all love outdoor activities such as swimming, hiking and horseback riding and we will be traveling from Houston. Just wanted to give some background on us so you guys can help with suggestions and ideas.

Idea #1 - travel to the panhandle for about 3 nights and camp out at either PaloDuro Canyon or Caprock Canyon. (Not real sure what to do here so any suggestions are welcome - is there swimming or horseback riding here?) I have only passed through the panhandle on my way to Colorado and hubby and kids have never been anywhere near here. Then travel down to the Davis Mountains for the rest of the trip and camp either at Davis Mountains SP or Crow's Nest Ranch. Never been to either. Only passed through west Texas on I10 going to Grand Canyon and again hubby and kids have never been in this part of Texas. I thought we could see Fort Davis and the Mc Donald Observatory, explore the state park, take a day trip to Balmorhea SP to swim and I have heard something about a ghost town. Other than that I have no clue.

Idea #2 - Travel from Houston to Carlsbad NM for the first few nights. I thought we might get a kabin at the KOA because it doesn't look like there is anywhere near that is shady to pitch a tent and run a fan. Is there? We would visit the caverns and Sitting Bull Falls maybe? Then on to the Davis Mountains for the rest of the trip. Again none of us have ever been to Carlsbad or Davis Mountains.

Idea #3 - Head from Houston right to the Davis Mountains, spend several nights there and do the above mentioned activities. Then head back to the hill country and camp somewhere by a lake or river. Not sure where. I have never camped anywhere there except the guadalupe river at Rio Raft Resort and I didn't like that. It was like the middle of a parking lot. We like trees and would prefer not to be right in the middle of the party crowd since we will have our girls with us. Potters Creek on Canyone lake I have heard is nice. Also Garner SP but have never been to either and have no idea where to stay.

We had originally planned to go to Lake Catherine SP in Arkansas. We love it there. But the sites we liked have been turned into full service RV only and there are not any other waterfront sites available the week we want to go. Bummer!

Thanks in advance for any help you all can give me. Just tell me what you think. Which trip? What is wrong with each? What can I do better? What should I avoid?
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Old 01-15-2009, 05:47 PM   #2
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Re: Tour of Texas this summer??

All those are great ways to see Texas

Idea 1 is Campermom's vacation somewhere on this site from last summer, Panhandle is HOT in July but they had fun. We did parts of that in April 2008 pictures somewhere in this forum

Idea 2 we did the Carlsbad, Davis Mountains trip from North Texas just a few years ago. Had a great time. We stayed at the KOA North of Carlsbad, no shade but we have an RV, there are posters on this site see Big Bend July 2008

that tent.

As to Arkansas, we did Lake Ouichita a few years back and loved it, here is some pictures, A scout troop in tents was near us by the lake.
Slideshow of pictures, photos, and videos, from webshots
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:28 PM   #3
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It sounds like a road trip is coming up. I have also experienced the Guadelupe camping and one night was enough for me! You have to stop at Garner. The kids will have a blast. They are at the right age to truly enjoy the park. Old Garner is more noisy and a party atmosphere. But, it is where most of the fun is at ; river swimming, rope swings, peddle boats,hiking, kids roaming around and of course the dance at night. New Garner is less noisy and laid back. The river can be a good float or a float-walk, drag your tube event. The water is cold and relaxing. Once there, it may be hard to leave. Have fun and enjoy.
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Re: Tour of Texas this summer??

Palo Duro in July would be a little tough. Hot, dry, windy. Not much around Carlsbad for shady camping.
i would vote for Davis moutains for a couple days, a little cooler and you could day trip to Balmorea for a cool dip in the springs/pool. While at Davis you could do the observatory and the old Fort for contrast. I would then come back to Frio canyon. Slower pace on the river compared to Guadalupe and if Garner is full, a lot of other camping choices to pick from. Of course it will be hot there, but the Frio will still be cold. Not many places to take a dip/float/get cool around Palo Duro.
Just one persons opinion, yours may differ. I suspect you will have a good time either way.
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Old 02-10-2009, 04:24 PM   #5
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Re: Tour of Texas this summer??

I am getting really excited now! I just ordered my very first ever park pass today!

Here is what we have lined up.

Mother's Day Weekend - 2 nights at Village Creek SP with a canoe trip on Saturday.

July 2009 - 2 nights at Llano (just floating and playing in the water, maybe a little fishing), 4 nights at Davis Mountains (Fort Davis, McDonald Observatory horsebackriding, Balmoreah for a swim), 3 nights at Garner (floating the Frio, checking out the dance and possibly a small side day trip to Lost Maples).

September 2009 - dh's 40th birthday trip, just the two of us heading for a few days at Palo Duro and a few days at Caprock. Have no idea what to do but just being alone will be heaven!

We have never done any of these things before so I am totaly ready to go!

Campermom I have checked out a lot of your slide shows! WOW!
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:45 PM   #6
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Okay great advice everyone! I officially love this site. You guys rock.

From what i have read here I'm thinking the panhandle may not be the best choice for July. I have never been to the Frio and am always up for something new.

I'm gonna run this by my husband and see what he thinks - Davis Mountains (how many days are needed here?) and then the Frio (how many days here?). I do have ten days for this trip so I need to break it down. Oh and will I need reservations at all? Oh gosh so now I guess the questions is Old or New Garner. Really loud roudiness out night will get me pretty po'd. Do they inforce the quiet hours or no? If not then maybe I should choose New Garner. Does anyone have any choice sites at either Davis Mountains or Garner. Huh - I wonder if we can swing Carlsbad into this somehow too. I know we'd stay at the KOA north of town if we go there.

Yes you have given me great advice and things to think on. Thanks so much. Keep the advice coming please!
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FYi you can easily swing up to Carlsbad from Davis Mountains SP and the KOA is a nice KOA. Two nights would cover your trip up with a swing by the Guadalupe Mountains National Park to check it out,and then a day of the caverns, and watching the bat flight that evening, that was really neat. Of course you may want to go further to Roswell and see the aliens

I will tell you the KOA is not right next to Carlsbad Caverns maybe 30 minutes or so. If I remember correctly.

Rest is hard to say try to be there (Davis Mountains) when the do Star parties,

McDonald Observatory

and visit during the day for uniquie view of sun spots.

I would say start thinking about reservations sooner rather than later, it can't hurt to have them once you know you are going.
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:55 AM   #8
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Old garner or New garner it's just a matter of convience. If you don't mind driving then new garner is ok. The park rangers try to keep the noise down at night. Last year the rangers were walking the roads at night, checking things out. Old garner is mostly large families having a good time and normally respect each other at night. For site availability check out reserveamerica. Then call parks and wildlife for reservations.
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We've done all that, it's all good and very difficult to say what would be better. Other factors may help with the decision, like, rv or tent, can you drive long distances with out "are we there yet" going on the the back seat, and the price of gas.

Palo Duro was amazingly beautiful, but it was warm in June last summer. We did several day trips to see things in the area during the day and enjoyed the park in the evenings. There is no swimming there so we did drive to the community pool in Amarillo, if you go, go early as the local teens overtake the pool by 3. We stayed in the Mesquite campground and it was very canyonesque compared to the hill country like Hackberry area. Sagebrush is their newest loop, at the highest elevation, added when juniper was forever destroyed by flooding. There is a stable in the park for riding.

Caprock Canyons was a jewel. Out in the middle of no where, no DQ, no stop light, just a blinking yellow where you turn to the park, it was solitude +++++. The water electric sites are on the prairie level, so wind was a factor, some sites had a tree, we had #13, and the tables are covered. The bunnies filled the field around the bathhouse in the morning. If you can, camp in the water only area of South Prong. Once you drive past the shower house, the road drops off into nevernever land. I would stay down there and drive up to shower a night ( if we ever get back that way). The lake was a great place to swim and stay cool. We spend hours there. I am picky about lake swimming and really liked it. There is a local guy, Mr. Tomas, who came out with horses for us to ride with him. The ranger gave us his number. Their VC has a great buffalo exhibit as they are home to 65 of the state's buffalos. Palo Duro has just a few. There is a drive in theatre between Quitaque and Turkey, we saw the Indiana Jones Movie. Bring what you need, if you don't, make sure you check the expiration dates on items from the convenience store.

Balmorhea is a great place to swim, or use as a base camp for you day trip ( 2 hour drive ) to Carlsbad. Carlsbad was cheap and worth the trip. Unless you have a trailer, I would not recommend camping at Balmorhea, it's 10 degrees hotter than Davis and the showers are on a timer.

Davis was nice. We had #44 at the end of the cul-de-sac. Saw grey foxes and a mule deer doe. We had the entire loop to ourselves the entire trip. The observatory was nice, although the kids got bored quick. The fort kept their interest much longer. Nice places to eat in town. We also drove to Alpine to the Woodward Rock Ranch and dug up red plume agates, this was fun and something different. The owners were super sweet and a bit excentric.

The ghost town of Terlingua is just outside Bid Bend. It was interesting, but unless you are going to see big bend, save it for another trip. Big bend deserves at least 7 days of your time to fully expereince it.

I would do separate trips. In June, do west Texas. Although it is desert, at the higher elevations it was pleasant.
Leaving on Saturday,
Drive to Junction and camp there 1 night (swim upon arrival near park entrance)
drive to Balmorhea and camp 2 nights (drive to Carlsbad the first day and swim the next, leave for Davis late afternoon, 30 minute drive)
drive to Davis and camp 3 nights (visit the fort, the observatory, hike, get ice cream across from the fort from the caboose, and avoid the restaraunt at Indian Lodge, eat in town, drive to alpine to dig rocks, go back to swim at balmorhea if the kids are frying)
drive to Junction and camp 2 nights (swim in Day use area #2)
arrive home Sunday with sunburns and smiles.

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Old 01-18-2009, 05:25 PM   #10
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Re: Tour of Texas this summer??

Campermom you rock girl! I found your slideshows of your trips - man how fantastic!!! And what a big help they were. Now I know for sure I want to go to the Panhandle maybe just not in the dead of summer, but sometime.

Okay I think we figured it out. Maybe. We want to do Davis Mountains, Fort Davis, the observatory and swimming but not camping at Balmorhea. Also either a couple of days in Carlsbad to see the caverns and Sitting Bull Falls or Garner - that we haven't decided yet. We would love to do the ghost town but aren't planning to do Big Bend this time. Should I get a water/electric site at Davis Mountains so I can run a fan at night or is it cool in the mountains?

Now my next questions is..........do I need to make reservations? Do I need them in Davis Mountains State Park in July?? I know i need them if we go to Garner on the weekend, however if we go to Garner in the middle of the week and not the weekend will we need them??? Also if we do Carlsbad do I need any reservations for the cave tour?

Thank you all so much for helping us out planning our trip!
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