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    Re: Discuss: Brazos Bend State Park

    Quote Originally Posted by Shannon
    Thanks for sharing your photos -- the Brazos Bend ones are enough to make me want to declare a week off from my small business desk-bound duties to actually (novel thought!) take photos! We always see a lot of gators at Brazos, but your shots show they're out in full force and not minding being right out on the trail which makes for some awesome viewing and photography. That, and I can't get over how lush green everything is there -- I know it's the Houston area so it gets a lot more rain than we do here in San Antonio, but for July that's still an impressive amount of growth!

    I need to take better notes, as there are certain times of the year that the water lilies are in bloom on the lakes (40 Acre in particular)... but we haven't timed our last couple visits to coincide with that, apparently.
    I'm sure the green-ness is due to the fact that we had the wettest June on record, unless you count the flood from TS Allison back in '01. Around the 4th of July I heard that there was not a single day in June when it didn't rain. The past 2 times I've been there, the area beneath the long bridge near 40-Acre was relatively dry. In fact, I recall cycling through the trough on my last trip there. This time, the water was several inches deep. There was a family of small ducks tooling around right beside the bridge but the pics came out lousy.

    Thanks for the compliments on my photos. Coming from a pro, it means a lot. I've already decided that my Xmas present to myself is going to be a better digital camera. I'm really catching a dose of shutterbug.

    If I had a decent optical zoom, I could have gotten so many really good wildlife pics. As I said to Todd, hiking alone has great stealth advantages when it comes to wildlife viewing. I would have loved to get pics of that heron and his crawfish dillema. I passed on photographing the two gators fussing over the gator corpse but I probably should have. One doesn't get chances like that often.

    Alas, school starts back on Aug 23rd so I will have to hang up the hiking boots until mid-Dec and I'm not sure what areas are good for winter hiking. Maybe I'll do Lost Maples again so I can see the rest of it.

    I'll take some time in the next week to sort through my recent pics and send the betters ones this way. I'm open to suggestions if there are ones that you (or others) particularly liked.

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    I wonder if it's easier falling asleep to "Sweet Home Alabama" while your out camping!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by 4runner
    We went to Brazos Bend SP July 15-17.

    This was our first visit, and the park was beautiful. Sadly, some of the lakes are still choked up with vegetation, but park staff mentioned that plans were in the works to drain and clean out some of the lakes. The fishing was disappointing. The trails were nice, and kind of exciting because we kept expecting alligators to charge out of the brush. We only saw five alligators, and they were in the water and were not interested in us at all. On our first night there, we drove around the camping areas and counted 72 deer, from babies up to nice bucks. Raccoons are present, but not near as obnoxious as they are at Goose Island SP and Guadalupe River SP.

    We had screened shelter #13, and pitched our tent next to it. The shelter had a ceiling fan in it, and was about 15'x15'(this is a wild guess) with a small covered porch. The shelter had two picnic tables, a waist high grill, fire ring w/grill, water and electric. The only downside was that all through the night people walked through our campsite to get to the bathroom. All other shelters should offer a little privacy.

    I don't know if "Jerry" is still there, but some guy in a Jeep Cherokee drove around regularly at night and actually enforced the "Quiet Hours" rules. I wish the staff at other parks were as conscientious. It was nice to go to a state park on a weekend and not have to try to fall asleep to tejano music blaring from nearby campsites.

    The park has a nice interpretive center. Be sure and check out the mongoose.

    There is also an observatory on sight(open on Saturday), but you need to buy your tickets early. We got there right as it got dark and they were sold out. Some amatuer astronomers bring out their scopes and allow people to look through their scopes free of charge.

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    Re: Discuss: Brazos Bend State Park

    Quote Originally Posted by Lou
    I wonder if it's easier falling asleep to "Sweet Home Alabama" while your out camping!!!
    I prefer "Dueling Banjos". But more or less, the same thing.
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    Re: Discuss: Brazos Bend State Park

    Quote Originally Posted by vettech2112
    I sat for nearly an hour and observed a 8-9' gator and a 6-7' one tussle over "ownership" of a big alligator carcas in the swamp along eastern bank of 40-Acre Lake. According to the wildlife photographer that was filming it, the big one was a male who'd fought with the deceased gator about the time y'all were there. It was really interresting to watch the big male guard his prize from the smaller female while trying to rip into that tough gator hide. She would swim in on the opposite side of the corpse, take a quick bite, then he'd notice and come around and chase her off. I think the female got more to eat than he did! (There's a lesson in there, IMHO.)

    The wildlife photographer said he'd filmed alligators all over the Gulf Coast and felt that Brazos Bend was the best place in the country for it. I've never seen gators so tame.
    We met Philippe Henry, the wildlife photographer you mentioned. He's continuing to get terrific footage out there. On Friday, he showed us some new footage he'd taken that morning of a large female gator with a fresh killed raccoon she was retrieving from the shoreline to take back to her nest. Meeting Philippe was one of the highlights of our trip -- he's in a class of photographers we (Justin and I) still can only aspire to! Good inspiration, that!
    :idea:

    You had a gem of a visit, because while we saw a dozen or so total alligators during our two 1/2 day visits to Brazos this weekend, none crept up on the trails and all of them were juveniles. Our best photographs, then, were of a raccoon family that clearly gets well fed by picnickers and park guests (I'm not sure why Brazos isn't enforcing the January '04 set regulation against the feeding of any animals within our State Parks?) The spiders were awesome, though it's definitely fortunate they build their massive webs above the average human's height! Even the telephone/power lines, when they're close enough together, collect muliple spiders and their webs -- it is eerie.

    We stayed late yesterday to attend the George Observatory tour -- a first for us -- and quite enjoyable. I grew up with a cheap reflector telescope (still have it) and free reign of the backyard on good stargazing nights, but I'd never looked through a real scope before. We asked how much the 36" primary scope at George cost and apparently they got it for a bargain -- about $175,000 in the '60s. Today, just the scope (not the dome and assorted electronics) would run over a million dollars!

    Our least favorite aspect of the park? The horse flies and mosquitoes... the horse flies were especially bad on our first half-day visit on Friday. We knew we were in trouble when we met Philippe and he was, rightfully so, wearing a long-sleeved jacket despite the 84+ degree temperature (nice weather all weekend, btw)

    I'll post a trip report soon... hopefully not boring everyone by repeating the primary details I've just "let out of the bag"
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    Re: Discuss: Brazos Bend State Park

    Quote Originally Posted by Shannon
    We met Philippe Henry, the wildlife photographer you mentioned. He's continuing to get terrific footage out there. On Friday, he showed us some new footage he'd taken that morning of a large female gator with a fresh killed raccoon she was retrieving from the shoreline to take back to her nest. Meeting Philippe was one of the highlights of our trip -- he's in a class of photographers we (Justin and I) still can only aspire to! Good inspiration, that! :idea:
    I wondered if you'd see him or if perhaps the carcas I spoke of, considering how large it was, was still around. I could have just sat and observed him work the rest of the day but I was worried I was disturbing him, even though he was quite friendly and gave no indication I was.

    When I had call to step outside Friday evening at the clinic, I thought about you 'n Justin's timing. It was October weather this weekend. I was actually a bit chilly outside around 5a this morning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shannon
    You had a gem of a visit, because while we saw a dozen or so total alligators during our two 1/2 day visits to Brazos this weekend, none crept up on the trails and all of them were juveniles. Our best photographs, then, were of a raccoon family that clearly gets well fed by picnickers and park guests (I'm not sure why Brazos isn't enforcing the January '04 set regulation against the feeding of any animals within our State Parks?) The spiders were awesome, though it's definitely fortunate they build their massive webs above the average human's height! Even the telephone/power lines, when they're close enough together, collect muliple spiders and their webs -- it is eerie.
    I think I had so much success because I go mid-week. As I work weekend overnights, I tend to go on Tues or Weds. I'm betting these animals know the pattern well enough that they hide more on the weekends and it probably takes until late Monday for them to show themselves. It seems that I'm frequently getting comments about how many animals I get to see and how few others do. Either the above theory is correct or I've got a "gift" of some kind.

    As far as the spiders, again, they must know the pattern because I saw many many webs (and their owners) along the trails at about the 5-6' level. However, maybe there are lots more spiders there than I've noticed because I have a habit of keeping my eyes fairly low rather than looking high in the trees.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shannon
    We stayed late yesterday to attend the George Observatory tour -- a first for us -- and quite enjoyable. I grew up with a cheap reflector telescope (still have it) and free reign of the backyard on good stargazing nights, but I'd never looked through a real scope before. We asked how much the 36" primary scope at George cost and apparently they got it for a bargain -- about $175,000 in the '60s. Today, just the scope (not the dome and assorted electronics) would run over a million dollars!
    I've been wanting to do the George Observatory tour for ages! My friend in Boerne is studying Cosmology and I've always been an astronomy geek. One thing I was amazed about SA was how much less light pollution there is than Houston.

    Tell me about what you got to see.


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    Our least favorite aspect of the park? The horse flies and mosquitoes... the horse flies were especially bad on our first half-day visit on Friday. We knew we were in trouble when we met Philippe and he was, rightfully so, wearing a long-sleeved jacket despite the 84+ degree temperature (nice weather all weekend, btw)

    I'll post a trip report soon... hopefully not boring everyone by repeating the primary details I've just "let out of the bag"
    Yeah, and it seems DEET doesn't impress the horseflies much. Tell us everything about the trip. Brazos Bend, as many have said, is one of the hidden jewels of the TPWD system.

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    Re: Discuss: Brazos Bend State Park

    Quote Originally Posted by vettech2112
    I wondered if you'd see him or if perhaps the carcas I spoke of, considering how large it was, was still around. I could have just sat and observed him work the rest of the day but I was worried I was disturbing him, even though he was quite friendly and gave no indication I was.
    We didn't spend very much time with Philippe, for the same reason you mention. That, and it was later in the day and he needed to head back to observe the female gator's nest for the evening. He apparently uses a wood canoe in some manner, as he inquired about the Guadalupe River's suitability for his wooden canoe and the video he showed us of the female gator with her fresh kill included a brief tripod shot of him approaching his canoe. He has a healthy respect and a large appreciation for the reptiles, so I'm not entirely sure the canoe isn't just a prop for the video he's working on.

    We didn't observe any carcasses, but there's so many deer and racoons that I'm sure the gators are feeding well. Even the tiny (under 2 feet) gator we observed by one of the docks caught a sizable fish while we watched.

    The mild weather both played in our favor -- more pleasant hiking and photography conditions -- and conspired against us -- keeping the gators in water and away from the trails. The day we had the worst horse fly issues, we'd gone straight from checking in to the hotel to the park and neglected to wear ANY (!) repellent. It still wasn't as painful and unnerving as one visit we made to Anahuac NWR in the past -- the one where I mentioned the insects are smart and attack the windows of your vehicle, just knowing there's warm human flesh inside for the taking!

    Quote Originally Posted by vettech2112
    I think I had so much success because I go mid-week. As I work weekend overnights, I tend to go on Tues or Weds. I'm betting these animals know the pattern well enough that they hide more on the weekends and it probably takes until late Monday for them to show themselves. It seems that I'm frequently getting comments about how many animals I get to see and how few others do. Either the above theory is correct or I've got a "gift" of some kind.
    I think it's probably equal parts both reasons. Some people just do better at mixing among wildlife -- it has a lot to do with patience, body language, noise and even color of clothing. I've lost more shots than I care to count because I absolutely couldn't contain a sneeze for another moment... :no:

    Our visit on Friday was definitely more productive than the return visit on Saturday. More people in the park on Saturday meant the wildlife was more spread out and less apt to be within "killer" photographic range (even with our 300mm zooms).

    Quote Originally Posted by vettech2112
    As far as the spiders, again, they must know the pattern because I saw many many webs (and their owners) along the trails at about the 5-6' level. However, maybe there are lots more spiders there than I've noticed because I have a habit of keeping my eyes fairly low rather than looking high in the trees.
    I tend to look high, a habit I've acquired as I try to take more good bird photographs (Justin's staple, but something I didn't get into until I had a lens that made it more worthwhile). That said, I have a sneaking suspicion that children and other hikers might have "taken out" some of the lower-hanging webs, particularly when we returned on Saturday. <sigh> I saw a neat thing as one spider worked methodically to remove a dead leaf that had become trapped near the center of its web -- without much effort, it disengaged the leaf from the web and wove some replacement strands for reinforcement. I'm in awe of the beauty of some of their webs...

    Quote Originally Posted by vettech2112
    I've been wanting to do the George Observatory tour for ages! My friend in Boerne is studying Cosmology and I've always been an astronomy geek. One thing I was amazed about SA was how much less light pollution there is than Houston.
    We paid the $5/person ($10 total) for rights to view through both the main (32" primary) scope as well as the East and West dome scopes. They could use some process improvements because we had to ask twice before we knew if it was our time to view, but the experience itself was terrific -- even the volunteers were awesome (and have some amazing scopes to view through). We observed the Ring Nebula (M57), which was "just" a blurry ring in the scope until the volunteer swapped eyepieces so we could see the stars around the nebula and appreciate that the nebula was in fact a very different phenomena. Through the larger, official scopes, we viewed the Hercules Globular Cluster (M13) -- very impressive.

    I was impressed with the dark sky out there. It's no Big Bend, certainly, but it was quite easy to note the Milky Way and we spotted several satellites cruising overhead during our time outside. I cannot see the Milky Way from my backyard in NE San Antonio, nor my parent's backyard in NW San Antonio -- too much heavy orange city glow. But out by Canyon Lake (in the "old" days and further into the Hill Country, it's still quite visible. My favorite night sky view in awhile is out in Leakey, Texas.

    Anyone been to the McDonald Observatory in West Texas? That's on our agenda at some point.

    Trip report probably won't be posted until end of week due to some business stuff that's popped up on our radar. I wish I'd taken more photographs of the Brazos Bend facilities, but I got fixated on wildlife watching and birding. We did get some awesome duck and goose photos out at Bayfront Park in Hoston, near the hotel we stayed at. I would have loved to have had time to return there for another visit, particularly to photograph some of the canoeists and kayakers.
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    Re: Discuss: Brazos Bend State Park

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    I've been wanting to do the George Observatory tour for ages! My friend in Boerne is studying Cosmology and I've always been an astronomy geek. One thing I was amazed about SA was how much less light pollution there is than Houston.
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    I just ran across this for those in the area that maybe interested. Haak Winery in Santa Fe, SE of Houston, is hosting a local astronomy club Sat. Nov 13th. It's still a ways off so mark your calendar. Amateur astronomers will have their telescopes set up on the grounds next to the vineyards for the public to view. I've never been before but I understand that the telescope owners really take pride both in their hardware and explaining the celestial sights that you're viewing. Admission: FREE; Time: NIGHTFALL; Snacks: Bring your own or purchase from the tasting room deli; Beverages: All alcohol must be purchased from the winery to comply with their TABC permit.
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    Unless they have changed policies, McDonald won't let you look through their scope. Neat place anyway!
    For a dark sky not quite as far from San Antonio check out www.xbarranch.com

    They can turn off all lights inside and out. Super nice folks.

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    Hey, I was looking to take some friends camping over spring break and Brazos Bend is the closest park to Houston. I haven't been there in a while, and I can't remember which campsites have a big open field behind them. I believe it is the odd numbers of 215-223. Not sure though. Can anyone confirm this or suggest two campsites where we may play football. And does anyone know how crowded this place is during spring break? If it is crowded on the weekends, do you think I should go camping during the week? If it's crowded I probably should make reservations soon, huh? Thanks.

    camp map: http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/park/brazos/bbspfac.pdf

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    Brazos Bend State Park...and the alligators

    From what I am reading in this thread, there seems to be a pretty convincing emphasis on the presence of alligators in this park.

    At the risk of sounding like a worry-wart, how concerned should I be about my 4 yr old running around playing or riding her bike?...especially in the trailer areas? Will I constantly need to be on the lookout for gators?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissionCamper
    From what I am reading in this thread, there seems to be a pretty convincing emphasis on the presence of alligators in this park.

    At the risk of sounding like a worry-wart, how concerned should I be about my 4 yr old running around playing or riding her bike?...especially in the trailer areas? Will I constantly need to be on the lookout for gators?
    In the trailer area, it shouldn't be a problem. However, don't let her wander too far away. The only places I have seen alligators there were in the water and on the hiking/biking trails. There are a lot, but I have not heard of them getting too friendly with campers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wes
    The "head ranger" who calls himself "Jerry" is a bit full of himself! (He drives a Jeep Cherokee....Legal Eagle alert!)
    Just had a run in with one hell of a jerk, Ranger Jerry Donner, who drives a Jeep Cherokee. This was in Hecla Junction, Colorado. He issued me a completely frivolous $50 unlawful camping fine, and my group had paid ahead to rent 5 campsites for two nights at something like $14/night! He claims I was on the wrong side of an invisible barrier that somehow separates two of the campsites in the same graded gravel pit. I somehow didn't see the invisible fence when I rolled out my sleeping pad that night (I don't even set up a tent unless it's raining). Oops, sorry I slept on the wrong few feet of gravel, it caused so much harm, and I'm a bad person for it. The camp ground was by no means crowded, there were plenty of empty sites, and we aren't a bunch of drunk partying kids. Also, when we got there, we cleaned up a bunch of trash around the sites.

    This is highway robbery, and the worst thing is that the law is set up to give pee brained, pompous, self-righteous scum like Jerry the authority to issue tickets with no burden of evidence or due process of law. Nothing like getting woken up by a creep with a gun and a chip on his shoulder while you're on vacation, and then having him steal $50 and have the twisted law on his side! Unchecked authority will always be abused.

    I would like to see Park Rangers use a more educational approach to minor violations instead of being so punitive. I am in the process of writing his supervisor as well as all 50 State Park offices to let them know exactly what sort of person they shouldn't have working for them.

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    Re: Discuss: Brazos Bend State Park

    What does this have to do with a very old thread about Brazos Bend State Park?

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    Re: Discuss: Brazos Bend State Park

    I suspect someone hit the thread from a Google search, and without even bothering to determine that this thread referred to a park ranger named Jerry at a TEXAS State Park, they went off to bash a CO National Park ranger.

    I'd delete it, but sometimes these things are good reminders to folks to read for comprehension online rather than just skimming posts and firing off replies.
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    Re: Discuss: Brazos Bend State Park

    Hello, I am the person who posted the message complaining about a Ranger Jerry in a Colorado STATE Park. I do (and did) understand that this is a Texas board. I also understand that occasionally, after several years, people have been known to relocate from state to state, and assumed that this was perhaps the case.

    I was very offended by my treatment, which I consider nothing short of highway robbery of my hard earned money. I could not make the court date in a court so far away from my home, so my only recourse was to write letters and post to various message boards in the hopes that his supervisors would realize that he is not the type of person you want working in a recreational area in contact with clients. Since this was one of the only references to a Ranger Jerry who drives a Jeep that I have been able to find, I hope that my dissatisfaction remains here to help anyone else who is harassed by this guy in the future. If it is a different Ranger Jerry who drives a jeep down there, then I apologize to him for the confusion.

    I am a very courteous, quiet, clean, and minimal impact camper, and it was a real slap in the face to be woken up and treated like I was some punk kid poaching campsites on the first morning of my only vacation for a long time, particularly after having cleaned up the campgrounds upon arrival, not having sufficient TP in the restroom at the start of a weekend, and having paid for FIVE campsites at a large campground that was otherwise fairly empty that weekend.

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