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Old 09-07-2003, 08:30 PM   #1
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seasonal patterns?

Hi- not only am I new to this site, I'm new to Texas (transplant from the northeast), and I was wondering... when, typically, does it start to get cooler? there must be a little foliage- when does that tend to occur? i want to be sure I don't miss it, if there is one....
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Old 09-07-2003, 08:51 PM   #2
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Welcome to Texas and WildTexas.com, Kai!

Fall foliage in South and Central Texas is pretty spotty, compared to some other states. Our primary fall foliage viewing opportunities are in the hill country, especially Lost Maples State Natural Area in Vanderpool, Texas, where there are stands of bigtooth maples that turn every year. The Texas Parks & Wildlife Department (TPWD) provides free weekly updates of the fall foliage conditions at Lost Maples SNA starting the first of each October and running through the fall -- be sure to bookmark their Lost Maples Fall Foliage Report so you can check it after October first!

The weather conditions have to be just the right mix of precipitation, cold and sunlight to result in a spectacular fall foliage display at Lost Maples. I visit every season and have yet to see the foliage at true peak, but it's always worth a visit in the fall -- even "lackluster" years are a treat, since the hillsides of the park become mottled puzzles of subdued color. Photos at the park headquarters show the maples in their full fall glory.

Other places in Texas that are known for their fall foliage are areas in West Texas, particularly McKittrick Canyon in Guadalupe Mountains National Park.

It generally takes until mid- to late-October for us to get our first cold snap of any kind, and some years we don't get actual freezing temperatures until Thanksgiving or even Christmas. This summer has actually been mild (and wet), by Texas standards, so we may be in for an atypically cooler winter, as well. We shall see! Generally, our coldest temperatures of the winter are in the first or second week of January.

Welcome, again, to the site and to our beautiful state. I hope it grows on you and becomes a treasured home!
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Old 09-08-2003, 06:40 AM   #3
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Thanks for the info, and the warm welcome. It looks like I'll only be living in Texas for another year or so, and then I'll be moving on- but I'd like to make the most of it while I am here, and carry some fond memories with me when I go. (not to mention some good photos)

an atypically cold winter would be wonderful (for me)- i'm a cold weather snow lover, can't help it. i know it would horrible for those of you not used to it, but if we actually got some snow this year... well, i'd be really happy. I have this dream (really farfetched as it is) of getting some snow in hill country, and heading out there in my snowshoes... (which are collecting dust in my garage, naturally).

I'm glad I asked about the foliage- if we had any, I was expecting it to peak much later in the year, like late november or so, because it stays so warm down here for so long. I would have missed it all together. I had heard about lost maples from an acquaintance- i have been out there 2x before. I noticed in the photo gallery that there are waterfalls out there- which part of the park is that in? I seem to remember basically 2 main hiking areas...
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I've lived in Texas nearly all my life, moving here from San Diego with my family when I was just five or six years old. I'll be 30 in December. I was here in San Antonio when it snowed and actually stuck -- 13.20" of snowfall on January 12, 1985 (my mother's birthday). My parents, having lived in Rhode Island and Georgia, among other places up north, took the family out to dinner on January 12, 1985 only to have to turn back 1 mile from the restaurant because there were a half dozen police cruisers stuck in herringbone fashion along the snow-covered four-lane roadway we were on (Bandera, near Loop 410)! School was cancelled for at least two days, and I remember building a giant snowman in our front yard.

My mother swears if it ever snows like that again in San Antonio, it will be on her birthday again. We've gotten close several times to receiving actual snowfall on her birthday, but temperatures invariably rise or the fronts stall north of us and dust the Hill Country (Kerrville, Llano, Burnet, etc.) instead. So, mark your calendar for January 12, 2003 -- maybe we'll get lucky. As much as I hate driving in frozen precipitation, it's not much of a worry since anything freezing shuts this city down like a nuclear winter. I just love watching snowflakes fall, or seeing the trees encased in crystalline ice formations.

As for Lost Maples and waterfalls, when you're hiking in the canyon and about to meet up with the intersection of the East and West Trails (near the Can Creek ponds & primitive camping area "C")--see map--if we're not in a drought you will hear the tell-tale sounds of water either rushing or at least trickling down rock and into a small pool. Follow your ears and wander just a bit off trail to your right (not toward the ponds), find a good vantage point and you'll see the source of the sound -- fern-shaded waterfalls sheltered amongst the vegetation.

After exploring the waterfall, follow the East Trail as it curves to the left and enjoy the beautiful, emerald green pond and rocky bluffs off Can Creek. Should be some healthy fish in there, and squirrels and such skittering around in the trees. There may be primitive campers there, as it's a choice spot, but I've never encountered folks there--it's a fair hike, and often I'm visiting in the middle of winter or the peak of summer. That's one of my favorite spots in the park...that and Hale Hollow Creek after a storm, when the limestone and ferns are actively dripping water.

I'd heartily recommend a trip out to Padre Island National Seashore on the Texas coast, as well...especially if you have a 4x4 capable vehicle (or visit when the sand's been compacted by rain shower), so you can travel far enough down island to enjoy the feeling of solitude. We've camped there three or four times now, and I don't think I'll ever get enough of the place. We usually camp 20 miles out from the entrance to the beach, so the only traffic you have are passersby in trucks, usually fisherman heading to choice fishing spots. We flew over Padre Island NS this weekend (Justin, my hubby, is a private pilot so we rent aircraft and take jaunts in the air occasionally), and it looked both pristine, thanks to recent storms clearing away Gulf debris and seaweed, and inviting due to only a few visitors.

If I can help you in any way to find things to explore here in Texas, don't hesitate to ask. That's entirely why this site exists!

Welcome, again. Good to have you here!

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Old 09-08-2003, 08:42 PM   #5
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there is no meditation better than listing to snow falling. maybe this year will be the year! i remember that ice storm last winter, my husband went to work, not thinking anything of it, and was stunned to find the highway shut down and no one at work. it never occurred to us to watch for cancellations - just another day for us- i used to work outside for 8 hours in worse weather (my favorite kinds of days). i went out jogging, and my new neighbors just kind of stared at me.... when i found out school was cancelled, i understood why someone jogging in shorts may have taken some folks by surprise.

hopefully, your mother is wrong- jan 12th i'll be in hawaii... that wouldn't help me much in the snow department.
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