chivas72

that is more that enough help...lol

thanks for the tips

i will look for the book this weekend

we havent done it as a family but i have done it with some friends when i used to do some rappeling

i hear on the pack shoes and stove / weight deals

We are all in great shape exercise daily, the problem is we all do it in separate disciplines and want to take advantage and do something together.

Obviosly we want to start slow and shorter distances and work ourselves up as we see fit.

Chip in....lol...of course that is what forums are for

Thanks again